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Pod­cast: Think­ing Eco­lo­gic­ally

The ecological crisis is a crisis in our thinking. In the “The Ecology of Ideas” podcast, CBS Associate Professor and digital ecologist Attila Márton speaks with thought leaders about changing philosophies to foster ecological thinking. The episode examines Thinking Ecologically and how systems thinking reveals patterns in living systems.

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What is the difference between thinking ecologically and thinking about ecology? 

In this episode, Attila Márton speaks with Nora Bateson, systems thinker, ecological philosopher, writer, and filmmaker, whose work has been highly influential for this podcast.

Nora carries forward a remarkable intellectual legacy. Her father, Gregory Bateson, was a pioneering anthropologist and ecological thinker, and her grandfather, William Bateson, coined the term genetics. The phrase ecology of ideas, which gives this podcast its name, comes directly from her father's work.

Nora invites us to see the world not as isolated issues, but as interconnected patterns within living systems. Through this lens, we begin to understand that ecological awareness is not just about the environment but about how we relate with those interconnected patterns.

This episode is part of the Ecology of Ideas podcast

Attila Márton

Attila Márton is Associate Professor at the Department of Digitalisation at CBS.

His primary research areas are:

  • Eco­lo­gic­al Think­ing and the Fu­ture(s) of Or­gan­is­a­tion
  • The Polit­ic­al Eco­logy of AI
  • Trans­plan­et­ary Eco­logy
Portrait of Attila Márton

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